On this episode of the #SPOHNTRAINED Personal Development Podcast, Nick is interviewing his friend Karen, who he met at the airport coming home from a Tony Robbins Event, Date with Destiny.

Karen Martell Hourtovenko is a coach and is also trained in Hypnotherapy as well as Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) and Time Line Therapy, so they hit it off very quickly!

Today, they talk about what it takes to shift your thinking and the steps you’ll need to take before meeting with a coach like them. Nick and Karen talk through the types of people that shift really well, and others that take a while to shift, and why.

Karen shares from her own personal experiences some of the flaws in western medicine, and how when someone tells you are depressed, then you are automatically hypnotized into believing those things are true. She gives you some insight into how to change your thinking, simply by being aware of your trance state, so you can live your best life.

Karen is so knowledgeable, and a delight to listen to! Get ready to have your big shift, today!